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Pundits Recycle Battle in Seattle, GOP Fake Debate
by The Editors
Sunday, December 5, 1999 -- NEW YORK (APJNS) -- The Sunday loudmouths covered two stories: the fake GOP "debate" on Thursday, and what happened inside and outside the WTO meeting in Seattle.
The usual lack of objectivity prevailed -- but by now, our regular readers know full well that we don't have to say that.
Here's what happened:
Fox News Spin-Day
Are they covering for Dubya?
Before we get to Fox News Sunday, we'd like to bring to your attention something that APJ reader "Hoopla" alerted us to. As you are probably aware, Fox News Channel broadcast a debate between the six GOP presidential mopefuls on Thursday. "Hoopla" writes:
Go to the New York Times web site, where a reader can call up the transcript of the NH Forum. Go to FOX News for their version of the debate and you'll see they edited Bush's comments on what he reads and how he doesn't get anything out of reading those papers.
Here is FOX News transcript...
Q: Governor, a great many people say they couldn't have done better on your pop quiz of the world than you did. But I want to ask you, what do you read every day?
Bush: I read the New York Times, the Texas newspapers, The Wall Street Journal. I read novels, mysteries, a book on Dean Atchinson right now. I have a record of leading and that's the test. The people of Texas overwhelmingly voted for me. I reached across racial lines with Hispanic and African Americans. People see and support that I can lead.
...and here is the Times transcript:
GOV. BUSH: Well, I read the newspaper.
MR. HUME: Which?
GOV. BUSH: I read the Dallas Morning News, I read the New York Times, I read The Wall Street Journal and I read the Austin American Statesman. I'm not so sure I get a lot knowledge out of there, but I read them every day.
MR. HUME: And what else?
GOV. BUSH: Well, I read books all the time. I'm reading a book on Dean Acheson right now. I like to read mysteries, I like to read novels. But look, here's the test of a leader. A test of a leader is when given responsibility, can you perform? And I've got a record of leading. It's the second biggest state in the Union. If it were a nation, it would be the 11th largest economy in the world. And I've had confirmation about my leadership style. The people of Texas overwhelmingly voted for me for the first time -- for a person to be elected for the first time to back-to-back four-year terms. I've been able to reach across racial lines in my state. I got nearly 50 percent of the Hispanic vote. I got a significant part of the African American vote. People appreciate the fact I know how to lead.
Okay, Roger Ailes and Brit Hume -- what gives? Trying to whitewash Dubya's dopey answer? We saw the debate -- and we remember The Shrub's answer. The New York Times transcript is correct -- and we doubt your transcript writers were watching the debate as broadcast from some alternative universe where the Bush Baby can answer intelligently and concisely.
We are left asking if we'll ever be able to trust the reliability of transcripts posted to their web site.
Now on to FNS...
"Only one candidate generated heat [in the Thursday debate]... protesters turn Seattle into Thunderdome."
Tony Snow delighted us with his first guest -- hasn't-got-a-chance hard-right GOP candidate Alan Keyes, who "rocked the otherwise sedate WMUR debate." Rocked? well, he was a fun provocateur -- and entertaining to boot.
Tony asked him about the race issue -- doesn't he bring it up? Keyes basically lied, saying "No, the press does... The people of the nation don't care about it, the press does." He claimed that all the people he talks to want to talk trade economic issues, which we sort of doubt. Now we're glad to see Keyes hammering the media -- but the fact is that they don't bring up race and inequities enough.
And Keyes motormouthed through Tony's attempt to deny the press brings up race.
Brit Hume asked Keyes about his campaign, which he cast as a hopeless quest. Keyes said that "I'm just going on with my message." Hume claimed that Keyes had no organization. Keyes said he did -- "It's grassroots, not money and my father's name." He laughed demonically -- and we did too. We know that his "grassroots" organization flooded Dick Morris bogus vote.com site with e-votes for their man as the winner of Thursday's equally bogus "debate."
Keyes then attacked the State of New York for "a rigged [primary] process... the people are deprived of a real choice."
And he's right -- it's true of both party primaries.
"My philosophy: stand forward, tell the truth... let the chips fall... Politics should be ... about [thinking] through the issues." Now that was unexpected -- vague, lofty generalizations worthy of BushBaby!
Tony asked if Keyes would consider running for the Congress. Here Keyes told a half-truth: he was not running for Congress. But we predict he will -- in 2002.
Tony said the Manchester Union-Leader called Dubya an "empty suit." Keyes called name-calling "dangerous -- then said there's a candidate about birth (Bush), about wealth (Forbes) and about issues (Keyes). A shame he has all the wrong issues!
Tony then slammed Keyes for calling Bush the candidate of birth -- and Keyes said that "he's trading on his birth because he has nothing else!" We loved it! He criticized Shrubya's abilities as a leader -- and when Hume said that the people of Texas voted for him, Keyes said this was not proof of qualification -- look at Bill Clinton, he said, who was a disaster despite "so-called qualification as Arkansas governor."
And Hume gave Keyes another opening when he said Keyes was running against Bush. Keyes went on another high-speed caffeine-jag rant -- saying he's running for President, then going off on a litany of what he's running for ("the unborn... the working man..." yadda yadda).
Keyes is completely insane -- or crazy like a Fox. It was a great segment, and we hope he stays in the race up to the convention -- if only to keep things lively, throw a few rhetorical Molotov cocktails, and be Bush's "bete noire."
[Spots: AIM funds, Philip Morris trying to look "nicey-nice" with a campaign to stop youth smoking that actually encourages kids to "go outlaw," Dell, Fox shows]
Tony then welcomed their boring "Odd Couple" (complete with theme music), toe sucker and Vote- Dot-Conman Dick Morris, and grating feminazi Susan Estrich, to "analyze the Fox-sponsored debate."
They're no Matalin-Carville team, that's for sure.
Tony played tape of BushBaby claiming he had executive experience. Morris pointed out that the Texas governorship is the weakest in the nation -- the Lieutenant Governor almost has more power. Estrich said he sounded well-rehearsed -- and Morris agreed: "He's a jukebox. You press button 4-D and that's what you hear."
Tony then played tape of Forbes and Bush slamming each other over retirement age -- and Forbes's views 22 years ago. How does that play as political theater? Estrich called it just that -- "political theater"-- but Bush's aide "gets ten points" for digging up a 22-year-old quote. Morris bored us with an analysis of life expectancy (his as a respected pol advisor is over, thus, Vote Dot Con).
Tony then turned to the exchange between Forbes (anti) and McCain (pro) re. Greenspan. Morris called Forbes' jabs prefab -- and said that McCain's best-line-of-the-debate "Weekend at Bernie's" comment came across as spontaneous. Estrich said Bush was rehearsed -- and uncomfortable.
Talk turned to McCain's anger and McCain's rejoinder: "It makes me a little angry [as he smiled]." Morris, a disgusting man, said he was disgusted at candidates exploiting the POW issue. Estrich expressed concern at certain comments about McCain -- and at Senators starting a whispering campaign.
The next clip: Forbes soundbites reduced to "Washington politicians... Washington politicians... Washington politicians... Washington rules...Washington rules...Washington rules..." Morris instead talked about his rigged poll calling Keyes the winner. Dicky, baby, this is no way to drive up your CPM ad rates on vote.com!!
Tony then focused on McCain's blinking and asked the two cretins about whether he was "uncomfortable." Estrich started talking about Keyes! Morris said "I'm a man, I have a prostate!" And a taste for toes, we'd add.
Talk about serious analysis! In fact, we have to agree -- we hope Keyes sticks around..
[Spots: Prodigy, Fox shows, Xenical ("you may experience gas with oily discharge" -- but the same holds true if you watch the Sabbath Gasbags), Men's Wearhouse, Local 1199 for "Family Health Care Plus" in New York State, Toyota.]
Tony turned to the WTO meeting notable for protests and a failure to agree to a new round of talks. Mike Dolan of Public Citizen, a pro-labor organization wary of open global markets, said that protests are back -- and would protest for fair trade whenever transnational trade organizations meet. he also said that Clinton was "talking the talk" about the environment to appeal to ems -- but would he walk the walk? Jeff Birnbaum asked Rep. David Dreier (R-CA), a pro-trade advocate, if WTO entry for China would pass and he thought so -- then claimed that the GOP cared about human rights.
Yeah, Dreier -- only when you can bash Clinton over China with it. Anyone want a new Cold War?
Dolan talked about "prying markets open in China... there are 1.3 billion consumes in China."
Oh, please -- as if 90% of them could even afford a slightly-used Ford Pinto.
Dreier said that developed nations put too many constraints on developing nations.
Dolan talked about workers' rights -- and predicted international debate -- then said that American and Chinese workers have more in common that the people who control them do. Birnbaum asked Dolan how important an issue trade would be in the Presidential election, and he said it would an issue at the congressional level -- but he's hearing few differences at the Presidential level. He did talk about Gore budging toward positions that please Public Citizen and organized labor.
Did Clinton "blow it?" Dreier said he was "proud" of Clinton's support of NAFTA in '93, but that Clinton is "trying to have it both ways" and "[tamper] with these areas," bemoaning what he characterized as a "lack of presidential leadership" on trade.
[Spots: IBM, Canon, Fox Shows, MCI]
Panel time: who won the debate? Hume instead talked about "negative campaigning" now being defined as criticism of other candidates' positions. Juan Williams expected Forbes to start using his money to attack Bush. Birnbaum talked about the "floodgates" opening on the Forbes side, but Hume pointed out -- correctly -- that when Bush slips, McCain gains, and Birnbaum said that Forbes may be perceived as a "spoiler."
Juan talked about the substance issue vis-a-vis Bush -- and predicted that would be the issue that hurts him. Birnbaum called Bush "unimpressive" -- and had us laughing at his idea of the "suitometer" a meter to measure to what extent George is an empty suit.
Who was generating excitement? Hume said McCain did, Bauer and Keyes were eloquent, and many had the sense that Bush was sitting on the ball." Good grief... enough with the sports metaphors! But Hume warned that Bush does not have long to "prove that there's 'there' there.... They're making straight-line projections through the general election, and straight-line projections are dangerous."
Juan said that a lot of people are giving Bush a lot of money -- because they see him as a winner.
Then onto McCain having released his health records. Tony said there was "not much of anything there." Hume bloviated provocatively about McCain having rubbed a lot of people the wrong way -- then using the "whispering campaign" rumors to his advantage. Juan called Hume's theory Machiavellian -- and Hume called politics Machiavellian.
We have to take umbrage with Tony on the "not much of anything there" comment. We quote from an article in today's Washington Post:
In 1980, doctors reported that McCain had a "herpetic lesion" on his genitals. The lesion was not tested to see if it was the herpes virus, and it healed without treatment. Ambrose said the adjective "herpetic" is a medical term describing any blister-like lesion.
Had these medical records been those of Bill Clinton, you could count on Fox News -- and Tim Russert, Spam and Cocky on ABC, Wolf Blitzer, and the entire MSNBC staff -- making it the day's top story, and claiming that Clinton was a contagious sex addict -- or worse.
Tony then turned to Gore and Bradley "taking the gloves off" -- with some vague sound bites. Tony speculated that Gore is "forcing" Bradley to respond to Gore's attack on his Medicare position. Birnbaum said that Bradley has squandered the opportunities presented by Gore's missteps. Juan complimented Gore for his "fashion look" (a swipe at Gore and Naomi Wolf). They all made way too much of this being negative" campaigning.
Tony then wasted the rest of the show by citing something called "The Boring Institute" naming Hillary Clinton and Don Imus the two most boring celebs in America.
Puh-leeeeze.
Tony's final word -- he's sick of grown men (i.e. GOP debaters) being robotic and cuddly -- if that's what he wanted, he'd go out and buy a Furby!
Right on, Tony! We want a little real blood-and-guts bare-fist debating ourselves.
This Weak
Spam & Cocky's Bullshit Circus, weaker than ever!
Spam and Cocky began the program with themselves.
Spam appeared to be sporting a new, greasy toupee. Cocky was still coifed as a German Kindergarten teacher who hangs the "jungen" in the coat closet by their shirts. Cocky is the ugly duckling daughter of two of 'Weezeeana's top nominees for Corrupt Politician of the 20th Century: Hale and Lindy Boggs. Lindy is now Ambassadorette to the Vatican -- a devout Catholic that Mac MacArthur personally witnessed plotting to "get" Jesse Jackson in her multimillion dollar condo on Connecticut Avenue one night -- by denying Jackson a good time slot at the 1992 Democratic Convention.
If you don't believe that -- ask Lindy. She wouldn't dare lie about it -- too many people were in that condo very late that night.
The twin carnival barkers of ABC pundit TV led with, of course, the stupid Mars Polar Probe: Where is it?
Who cares, we say!
Then this gem from Spam Donaldson: "Is John McCain mentally sound to be the president?" What a prick. This is the Donaldson way to ask a "fair" question. Linda Douglas, another ABC pimpette, told us that John McCain participated in a multi-year study of former POWs.
Spam said "So tell us, what did you find?" Linda finally told him that McCain is more sane than most people on earth!!!
It was typical ABC crap -- if a viewer had only seen the first 35 seconds of this bit, they would have gone away convinced McCain was a loon.
Then Douglas went on to slam McCain because he was diagnosed as a "histrionic" personality. Douglas followed by saying that some unnamed psychiatrist ABC used said that "meant" that McCain had an "outgoing" personality. Spam said "If that's histrionics -- then I'm Guilty!"
Well, not quite, Sam -- more like a paranoid schizophrenic sociopath with bad fake hair!
Then Spam asked "Puppet Man" Steve Forbes whether he thinks that Bush is a cokehead. Forbes didn't say no, but didn't say yes. He just attacked Bush for never presenting a position on anything. Well, what do you expect, Forbes? He's a moron.
Spam then turned Forbes over to 'Killer' George Will -- who asked Forbes why he bothers to attack Bush over leaving the income tax in place as it is because you can't change anything anyway? Forbes answered by saying Washington should serve the people, rather than the people servicing Washington (as Bush Baby's father did.) Forbes said that Bush calls his tax plan "realistic," but Forbes said that "he and the people" will define what is realistic, not George Bush.
Too bad, Steve -- the "people" are too busy guzzling Budweiser in their trailers to define anything.
Will thinks that because Bush is following "Reaganite" rules -- as if that was a good thing -- Bush must be right. The man is laughable -- and laugh we did. What a lunatic Will truly is.
Forbes said that no matter what Bush does concerning taxes, it is inadequate -- because his plan puts 70% of Washington lobbyists out of work.
We like Forbes's approach better.
Then Will said that George Shultz is a "Reaganite economist!" Another sidesplitter from "Migraine George" -- last time we checked, Schultz was a lackluster former Secretary of State.
Will then lectures: "Perhaps the American people say that tax cuts have lost their resonance." Well, George, the average American does not even know what "resonance" means, you arrogant punk
Cocky wants to know if Forbes has released his medical information!!!! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ! Is she stupid or what? And on that subject -- do you honestly think any of these guys actually release their entire unexpurgated medical file to the press? Don't make us laugh, Cocky! If McCain had been locked down at St. Elizabeth's in a straitjacket, you wouldn't be reading about it in ABC's secret medical files!
If Steve Forbes had been treated for gonorrhea or AIDS during the past decade -- do you think that would be in HIS record?
If George DumbBellYou Bush was treated for crack and crystal meth addiction -- as part of his "Bought Judge" punishment for possession -- would you see that in HIS medical records?
Just another case of Spam and Cocky, the Washington Post, and the rest of the media lying outright.
If Cocky was syphilitic, like many of her Louisiana sisters -- would that be in HER medical records released to ABC?
Speaking of Cocky, the program cut to a taped interview at the Trump Ostentatious Eyesore... er, Trump Tower on New York's Fifth Avenue, to interview The Donald.
The Donald began by saying that Charlene Barshevsky -- the US Trade Rep -- is an idiot. He basically touted the Pukeanan line on trade. The Donald attacked Bush's tax plan. "We need a bigger tax cut." Cocky reminded The Donald that he wants to tax people with net worth over $10 million a one time tax of 14%!!!
Sure!!!! But first he would warn them so they could hide the cash.
The Donald foolishly told Cocky that Rudy Giuliani is "the best mayor on Earth." Cocky thought she made The Donald stumble by telling him that he got a tax break in order to go forward with the Trump Tower (and all his other buildings). The Donald hit the Japanese for doing the same thing.
The Donald is an intellectual midget and the most "in love with himself" person on earth -- and that's exactly why we are supporting him for President! We need more idiots in Washington, for entertainment value alone.
Then The Donald said that he doesn't think that Washington or Jefferson would have ever become billionaires "like I am." Oh my God -- this guy is soooo great, the perfect American President!!!
Cocky reminded him that a lot of his companies have gone bankrupt. His retort: he wants to make money for the American people! He said that foreign nations are "ripping us -- and ripping us big time... you know that, Cokie!" Cocky said, "Well, thank for having us in your Tower." Ha, ha, ha -- good one, Cocky -- even though this was the only good line you had all year.
So who do they turn to next? -- Jesse the "Boob" Ventura. Spam wants to know what that idiot thinks about the WTO. Jesse does not want to withdraw from the WTO -- or the WWF! He said he doesn't listen to anyone in his party anyway. Then Spam asked whether Jesse will support The Donald. Jesse outwitted the moron and said, "How can I support him? He isn't even a candidate!" Another laugh-out-loud moment -- Spam gets had by a moron.
A moron? Jesse said that he would NOT endorse Pukeanan.
Jesse also said he wants a national sales tax instead of the income tax. Spam, of course, spouts the tired old liberal line that this would hurt the poor most.
Of course this is crap -- even liberals are abandoning this notion. A sales tax is a PROPORTIONAL tax, not a REGRESSIVE tax. For example, if a middle class citizen spent $30,000 on taxable items each year he might pay $3,000 in federal sales tax, although the first $2,000 would probably be formatted out by tax legislation. If Bill Gates spent $300 million on taxable items he would pay $30 million in Federal sales tax.
That's not fair?
Remember, spending that $300 million directly or indirectly creates at least 90,000 jobs. If you don't believe that -- check with your local Chamber of Commerce or your Junior High School business teacher.
Bill Kristol said the average Republican was disappointed with Bush's performance during last week's debate in New Hampshire. That was a generous understatement.
George Staphylococcus, who still only gets about a minute of air time on the This Weak for his million a year, said that Bush is running as the incumbent -- which is boring.
Will defends the BushBaby -- most likely because he is paid to do that. Spam reminded Will that Dubya is a moron. He said, "George, you are wrong." Ha, ha, ha -- George always is. Will said that this is because Bush is "not made for people that actually think" -- like those voters in NH, but when Bush goes to South Carolina, a state rife with inbred idiots, he will win hands down.
Well, look at their Senators.
Will has become a joke.
Cocky said Bush is "squishy" -- we say "squishy" like her hubby Steve Roberts, the ne'er-do-well columnist. WE add that BushBaby is "squishy" because the membranes in his nose and brain are coke-fried beyond recognition. Then Cocky ran a videotape from the BBC in which Bush said, referring to Iraq, "I would take them out!" Then DumbBellYou realizes what he said (on camera) -- which is equal to "finish them all off (women and children included)" -- so Bush tried to WEASEL out of it by saying he meant "take out" their weapons.
It was an hilarious moment.
Kristol said that Pat Robertson will go negative on McCain -- but that won't help him. We say that if Robertson does that, McCain will win for sure. Staphylococcus said that we haven't been able to tie Bush to the ultra-right wing as yet. What a cretin -- are you kidding, you little prig Judas?
Cocky said that Bush "is going after the vote like no other Republican has." Well, that's true. There has never been a dumber buffoon than Bush on the Presidential stump before -- including dumb but lovable Ronnie Reagan.
Then Spam turned to Bill Bradley, who called Gore a liar on tape. Kristol said Bradley is right. "Gore cannot look Democrat voters in the eye and tell them that Bill Bradley is not a leader in health care for the aged and poor."
Staphylococcus looks ill -- and VERY old. What's wrong, George? Have you finally faced the music that you are hated by most people in your own party and by most Americans because you sold out your President -- right or wrong -- for nothing but money? Now you are a ButtBoy for ABC and the Washington Post. Our own "Doctor" Gonzo lives not five blocks from Staphylococcus in New York -- and once watched him walking down an avenue on the Upper West Side. People walking the other way were actually avoiding him -- moving to one side of the street to give him as wide a birth as possible. The man is shunned by his own neighbors! Look in the mirror -- and George, do the right thing -- think Gillette or rat poison -- or celebrate the millennium with a bottle of Cristal and about fifty Phenobarbital tablets.
Will talked about campaign finance reform. He said McCain is stupid -- and added parenthetically that J.J. feels that reform will end up giving everything the conservatives want to them. Bush thinks that this is wrong, and that until you give the New York Times Company what it wants, the conservatives will get nothing.
They are, by the way, BOTH right.
Cocky talked about the American South. "It was segregated. Now these are Southern Governors who are worrying desperately about the horrible education of their populations [yes, Cocky, but didn't your parents ignore it] that, because of what -- because they want international investment in the Bayous." Ha, ha, ha. Good try -- moronette.
Kristol talked about the WTO demonstration. We like Kristol -- even though he is the Grand High Satan of the Ultra Right. Will thought "he made a funny "when he added that one protester against globalization broke into a Radio Shack -- and stole (catch this) a Satellite dish.
We contacted that guy immediately this morning -- he told us he stole the dish to destroy it in a symbolic move, not to use it as George Swill would have you believe.
Hey, George -- DO YOUR HOMEWORK, you phony.
The McLaugh-In Group
John's Trade Tantrum
Issue One: "WTO -- World Trade Outrage! It was the darkest week in Seattle history." John played footage of what he called "radicals" vandalizing Seattle stores as he talked ominously about the "first dawn-to-dusk curfew" in Seattle history. "The vast majority of protesters were there for fear of a world trade bureaucracy," John intoned in him most mock-dire manner.
Dick Lowry of the National Review said the protesters were "out to shut down global capitalism." Right, Dick -- all those GOP protesters are stealth Commies! Eleanor Clift corrected the shallow Lowry, calling it a coalition of left and right protesters worried about free trade. Tony Blankey said that the big beef was the secretive processes of the WTO. A new guest Robert Thompson of Financial Times called the WTO a magnet for people with a beef. John: "Do you like a star chamber?" John was trying to claim they are already the New World Order! Eleanor said that "your favorite President," Bill Clinton, raised just that issue in Seattle! John to Tony: "Can you put some sense back into this panel?" Obviously, John is in a state of advanced dementia, and must lean on the far more focused Blankley to do the talking for him. But Tony failed to do so, citing an article by conservative "big thinker" Francis Fukuyama in the Wall Street Journal -- and even John dissed Fukuyama over being wrong about "the end of history."
John played more video. "69% of Americans -- a consensus!!" oppose MFN for China. Robert blasted the idea of the world as a global "strip mall" and Tony called the changing trade economy a product of technological change. Eleanor pointed out that protestors -- including the hooligans, we would point out -- organized via the Internet and cell phone. John then plugged neo-Nazi Pat Buchanan;'s protectionism, which Lowry said he sees nothing wrong with -- though he and Pat support bringing the UK into NAFTA.
John talked about Clinton "losing" on issues with Congress -- will he lose on free trade? Lowry said yes, Eleanor said he has won over the last 7 1/2 years, but Tony said he had failed, then cited poll data that shows America embracing protectionism. John lied, saying that Clinton wants to be everybody's pal.
"Issue two: gang attack on GW Bush's tax plan!" Sound bites from the fake debate. Tony called it a clever plan that protects him from too much attack from the left or right. But was he right in using the CBO estimate, asked John? Eleanor said yes -- and called it a plan to appease the right, especially with respect to eliminating the estate tax. Robert said that it looks like an extrapolation from optimistic projections. Rich said there was nothing in the Bush plan that would appeal to the "new investor class."
John said to note that there was no soundbite of McCain in the set-up piece -- then played the Greenspan clip! Eleanor said McCain came across as substantial, as opposed to Bush who relied on pre-packaged soundbites. Tony talked about Forbes' claim that Greenspan feels that prosperity causes inflation. John -- correct, for once - -said nobody knows because of the tech-heavy Internet-driven economy.
What's behind the Bush-McCain "love-fest"? Lowry said it was smart of Bush to "come to McCain's defense." Tony said that if you want to be cynical, Bush was rising above and McCain wouldn't play -- because they may end up on the ticket together.
"Bush's Social Security gotcha!" John played the relevant Forbes and Bush bites. "Was the GW hit on Forbes effective?" Lowry said yes -- though it would have been more effective going around the press room with a handout? Robert said that Forbes is sitting on one rejoinder to Bush -- that he made that comment twenty-plus years ago, and what was Bush up to at that time? Lowry said that for Bush, the debates are like Yale -- he has to get a C to get by! Eleanor credited Bush for a great putdown -- but he's programmed by his advisors! John -- sounding nutty -- said there's a Bush spy in the Forbes campaign. Eleanor predicted Orrin "won't have a ticket to ride on that bus." Tony said Keyes did the best job -- but Bush "won." John called Keyes playing the race card "outre." Robert called Hatch "the loser."
Were they watching the same debate we were?
Predictions were boring -- except for Tony's. He predicted that Gary Bauer will be the next GOPer to drop out!
Face the Nation
Bob Schieffer's first topic -- the WTO talks in Seattle.
The first guest:John Sweeney (AFL-CIO prez). Sweeney said that the protests were about American jobs and worker rights worldwide. He also said that the collapse actually had a silver lining -- namely, the possibility that workers' rights would become a WTO issue. He called Clinton's stand on trade "courageous." Borger asked if there might be an "alternate structure" to the WTO, and Sweeney pointed out that there are already alternate mechanisms to trade treaties.
Schieffer cited a Washington Post critical of Clinton for not playing up the benefits of more free trade -- and Sweeney praised Clinton for his consistency -- but said that worker rights must become a topic before the WTO.
Commerce Secretary Bill Daley was the second guest. He called the talks a step in the right direction, but no deal at all is better than a bad deal. Schieffer asked Daley to comment on the perception that these talks were a failure -- and Daley pointed out they were also a failure in Montreal and Brussels.
Well, gee, that says a lot about the WTO -- a fact that was hardly even mentioned in passing by the press prior to or during the talks!
Gloria Borger asked about the rights of foreign workers -- and whether America has the right to dictate policy to other countries (a favorite right-wing argument concerning trouncing the sovreignty of other countries). Daley got a bit worked up as talk turned to Clinton raising the issue of sanctions against countries that do not meet certain labor standards.
Daley also explained why the Clinton Administration supported bringing China into the WTO -- it would put them in a position of having to follow current and future trade and labor standards. Would normalized relations pass Congress? Daley thinks so.
Talk turned to the faux debate -- the guest was hard-right Wall Street Journal commentator Paul Gigot. Gigot declared McCain the overall winner, and (along with Borger) slammed Bush for rote answers. Borger had us laughing when she called Forbes "a one-man employment agency for political consultants." She added that he has a Gore problem -- in that people think that, like Al, he's a nice guy but need a reason to vote for him.
Gigot correctly called McCain's Iowa strategy (i.e. not to run in the state) risky -- and said McCain was counting on Forbes to do well. McCain, we would like to point out, will not run in Iowa, a big ethanol state, because he opposes ethanol subsidies. Gigot also slammed Bush for his half-hearted effort to sell his tax plan.
Borger said that Gore-Bradley is "getting nasty" along the lines of Dole screaming "stop lying about my record" back in 1996.
Both Borger and Gigot said that the trade issue presents problems for Gore, who is supportive of open trade -- and may find himself at odds with labor and liberal Dems.
Schieffer's final word: on the death of Madeline Kahn, and his reminiscences of watching Blazing Saddles with a news crew following the Carter presidency. It was a funny anecdote -- especially if you're familiar with the hilarious and notorious Kahn punchline, "It's TWUE! It's TWUE! It's WEEWY TWUE!"
Beat the Press
with Tim "The Potato" Russert (get it -- Russet potato?)
Well, okay, but you do get the picture, don't you
We wondered is St. Timmy FatBoy would start with the Mars Probe, too -- but then thought not, because he tapes his show too early. You never know.
"Where DOES McCain stand on the issues -- Does he have the temperament to be President [in other words, is he a mental case]?"
McCain is the main guest.
Russert would also pick up on the latest neo-Nazi media theme: that Al Gore is a prick -- also honing in on Bradley calling Gore a liar, although not in so many words.
The Potato introduces McCain as "former POW and Senator." What a stooge. Obviously Russert had McCain on to redeem himself.
And, of course, McCain did very well.
Russert asked (looking hilariously mock-serious), "Do you think that other candidates should release their medical records?" McCain laughed in his face -- as we did -- and said "No, that's not my place."
Russert asked if McCain is a manic-depressive (because McCain ACTUALLY contemplated committing suicide in a North Vietnamese tiger cage). McCain said no.
Russert kept turning to the "temper" issue. He reiterated the name of everyone who is "worried" about McCain's finger on the button. "Why are people who know you best worried about your mental stability to be President?" McCain laughed in his face again -- and said "Well, the Arizona Republic is a joke -- they published a very hateful cartoon about my wife."
We should point out that the Arizona Republic is a neo-Nazi newspaper.
Liz Drew has reported that Trent Lott is part of the cadre who are spreading these psycho rumors about McCain. And we regretfully feel that McCain is toast. They will not let up on him -- just as they never gave up on the great senator from Missouri, Tom Eagleton, who was drummed out of a vice presidential bid because he was treated for depression as well.
McCain called Sen. Charles "Snake In The" Grassley (R-IA) a liar concerning Grassley' s story on the way McCain allegedly "freaked" when Grassley tried to block his investigation on POWS who might be still alive in Vietnam.
"By the way, the families of these POWS expect me to be strong."
Russert kept it up -- trying to make him explode. "So you are not mentally ill."
Russert turned to Ilian Gonzales, a Cuban refugee whose mother died on a raft taking him to freedom. Russert asked whether McCain would return him to Cuba.
Huh? What is with Russert -- he keeps asking about McCain's sanity, but we have to ask whether or not he has totally lost his mind!
Timmy (named after the character young priest in 'The Exorcist') asked about shutting off aid to Russia because of Chechnya -- and followed up with the same question about China. McCain said he does not agree that China is carrying out the same horrors that Russia is today. Of course, Russert, a devout phony Catholic, is fuming about this -- because the Chinese are not exactly happy with Christians trying to convert their people. McCain said he does consider China a partner either -- as does Clinton.
McCain said we told Saddam we would take military action if he didn't allow our inspectors into Iraq -- we took half-assed action, and have you seen any inspectors there lately? Idle threats are no good, he remarks.
Timmy said that McCain had a "Come to Jesus" meeting about his own campaign finance thievery. Good Lord -- Russert is such a devout Catholic (not). He asked McCain whether or not he is a hypocrite.
Well, Tim -- of course he is. He is a politician, isn't he?
McCain said that has received hundreds of thousands of contributions to his campaign -- but he restricts corporate contributions to $1,000 -- unlike BushBaby who will accept ANY amount.
Russert tried to defend Bush by attacking McCain. We think Russert is directly or indirectly on BushBaby's "payroll" -- for what his Daddy has in Russet's and Jack Welch's CIA files.
Russert then reads from The New Republic a litany of ultra-conservative views supported by McCain -- including his opposition to Martin Luther King Day. Wow -- talking about scraping the bottom of the barrel in history. Russert then quoted Barney Frank saying that McCain hates gays.
McCain said he would appoint gays to his cabinet if they were competent. He added that he has defended friends on this issue, implying they were caught in the act of "buttus-ala-erectus". We know this to be true about McCain. We are also sure he defends Trent Lott for ironing his own shirts in his Senate office AFTER they come back from the laundry -- so we guess we can trust McCain on this.
Russet even tried to make him small by suggesting and asking whether he would run for Vice President, or take an appointment as Secretary of State -- and about a dozen offices. Russet then showed a tape of Jesse "the Boob" saying he might try to recruit McCain as the Presidential candidate of the Reform Party.
Then McCain had a mini-stroke on camera and said that he was a wrestler in college and wears a feather boa on the Senate floor. Oh, gosh -- not smart.
Russert then turned to Jesse "the Boob", cloning Sam and Cokie -- which shows how low Eat the Press has sunk since Russert took the helm.
Ventura waxes ineloquent about how he had just came back from Japan on an "extremely" successful deal-making journey for Minnesota. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha -- right.
Russert said, like Donaldson, that "The Boob" saying just the opposite of what his own party is saying. Is Russert now watching This Weak and cribbing their stupid queries?
Ventura said the he is not happy with Buchanan. He is only a member of the Party -- not our candidate. "We have a convention later next year that will decide that." He refused to say he won't run for President.
Then Russert quoted AN ABC POLL (!!!) which said that only 15% of American voters would vote for "The Boob" -- and whipped out some sick newspaper ad run by Minnesota churches against "weak-minded" Ventura. He said, "Bully for them."
Russert then asked him about the WWF! "Do you think that the WWF should clean up its act?" Jesse replied, "That's a call for Vince McMahon to make, that's a private company." As for whether today's wrestling is suitable viewing for kids, "It's up to parents to decide" He claims he hasn't watched WWF for three or four months
Russert then turned to Gail She-He-Her-Him-It, dyed-redhead bitch and the author of the hilariously stupid book Hillary's Choice. FatBoy was joined by his own panel of has-beens including David Broder.
"What WAS Hillary's Choice?" asked Timmy.
Gail: she chose to give up her own promising political career to support her hokey husband -- well she didn't use the term hokey, but she implied thus this.
Then she called Bill Clinton a baby and said he was portrayed as that in cartoons in Arkansas. Hillary's "style," Sheehy claimed, was to ambush her husband's political enemies.
Cheesy She-He wrote that Hillary's father was not at her Wellesley graduation. Of course, Sheehy doesn't know shit about Hillary Clinton -- except what she had learned from people who hate Hillary Clinton, or people who never knew her. And it turned out that this is only one lie of several that Sheehy wrote! Is she taking after her buddy from the Washington Post?
Andrea Mitchell, a.k.a. Mrs. Alan Greenspan -- who makes a mockery of the Clintons regularly with super-asshole buddy Don Imus (MSNBC's resident moron disk jockey) -- said a litany of snide, smarmy things about Hillary -- including "her house doesn't have a stick of furniture in it."
Well, of course not, you arrogant bitch -- she just bought it! She is the First Lady of the United States, and she is running for the US Senate. Where would she get the time to furnish her home?
Bob "Novackula" was next to bash Hillary: "She did everything wrong. The Yankee cap, the visit to Israel. Mrs. Clinton is humorless and Rudy is funny." Great, Bob -- that's such a crucial qualification for Senate, you piece of pseudointellectual garbage.
Gail said Hillary needs to redeem herself for "failing" on health care, she needs "new identity" -- she has always been "searching" for an identity -- and that she had gotten hold of 30 letters she wrote about whether she should be a hippie, a misanthrope, etc.
Andrea said thinks that Bradley would be a stronger candidate. She does not think that Hillary helps Gore and that Gore is dragging her back because he is a constant reminder of the Clinton Presidency.
Read the numbers, you dumb-as-dirt yenta -- Clinton enjoys an 82% favorable rate. What the hell are you talking about? Go back and try to "get a rise" out of your octogenarian husband with that big mouth of yours -- if you catch our drift.
Clinton ought to kick Greenspan out of the Fed and kick his ass literally for allowing his dyed-blonde, bitchy wife to use her "position" as a "journalist" against the White House -- which she and "Daddy" live off of directly and indirectly.
Novackula burned Bush, Forbes and everyone else in the running saying that conservative have no candidate. That's right, Bob -- and that's the end of your pathetic and hate-filled career.
Sheehy said that Hillary knows how to bite her tongue. Mitchell thinks she will stay dignified. Gail said that Hillary is not taking Bill's advice. Now how the hell would she know that? She concluded by claiming that Mr. And Mrs. Clinton are living with 2 degrees of separation -- literally in latitude.
Ha, ha, ha -- what a true Cretinette.
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